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I can't believe how long this thread has been going on !!

The reason I was asking the question initially was that I was in a class once, and as I was putting my mat away, I realised that a UK Model / WAG by the name of Abi Clancy was in my class.

I made the mistake in telling my wife, who then said that was it right for a Man to go to a class dominated by women. So after a long discussion about it, I agreed that I wouldn't go to it again.......until now. 

Monday was the first time that I got a 'pass' to Attack in a good couple of months - the kicker was that it had been replaced that week for Combat. How gutted was I !!!

Thanks for all the replies to this thread, I think it will help my case next time - the question about me being the only man in a Body Attack class is brought up.

 

Hi I just noticed this thread - so apologies for coming to it late in the day.

 I'm the only guy who attends BodyAttack at my local gym, and it's always been the way for as long as I have been going there (6 months). I regularly attended BodyAttack at another gym near my old home last year, and out of a class of 30 people we would have 0-3 men. Ironically I first started doing BodyAttack with a male instructor.

In contrast, at my current gym the BodyCombat class has a regular attendance of around 30 people, with a male contingent of 5 guys.

In terms of a blunt and unscientific analysis, the men I know won't go to the class because they consider it 'girly'. It's nothing to do with cardio burn, slimming down or preferring it to pump. I see it as a macho thing - you can pass BodyCombat off as a kickfit class, or shadow boxing therefore that's suitably manly!  BodyAttack is viewed as something akin to Jane Fonda aerobics, requiring precise footwork and co-ordination,  ergo girly! Shame, because I think the perception is wrong and they don't know what they're missing out on :-)
 

 

 

Give yourself credit! I am a guy that has tried all the Les Mills programs, attack, rpm, body pump, combat, and vive. In my classes, rpm and combat are pretty mixed and at my Gold's, body pump has more women than men! And they can left big time! I am not intimidated at all. I started the classes in February and it has done me wonders! The only class that had like all women was vive, which was a low impact class. I did it once and it was good, but I was looking for a bigger challenge. Pump and Combat are great! Attack is great cardio and there is nothing wrong with being in a class with a majority of women. Think of it this way, if you were in a bar and had 20 women around you would that be a bad thing? Just have fun with it, and if you make a mistake, just laugh and keep going because in the end it's all good. :)

SteveTaylor:

• Pretty much, I go for a 10 hour tramp and then do body attack.

Sorry, I have no idea what a 10 hour tramp is.  Do you do 10 hours of training and then go to a body attack class?

 

You might call it hiking or mountaineering.

 

SteveTaylor:

  Perhaps you could try 100 burpess in 10 minutes (Pretty much = not the same), it is an absolute killer and far far harder than it sounds (do not forget the pressup in the burpee!).

 

I complained to a mate of mine at les mills that they never did burpees, he had never heard of them.

 

SteveTaylor:

•  Do something similar when going up scree slopes

Hmm ... something similar = not the same?  Try a set of burpee tabetta intervals, they will probably challenge even you.  Once again do not forget the pressup.

  

Yeah scree slope is a lot harder. 

 

SteveTaylor:

• Body builders might struggle, but cardio members certainly would have no problem.

Depends on what you define as being a body builder and what you define as being a cardio member.  Could you elaborate.  The cardio members are the ones who could do a full class of Body Attack with maximum effort, good technique and not feel like they have had a work out?

Body builders are those with all bulk and no muscle, cardio are those who regularly do 2-3 hours medium cardio a day. Such as going running.

 

jvisch:

SteveTaylor:

• Pretty much, I go for a 10 hour tramp and then do body attack.

Sorry, I have no idea what a 10 hour tramp is.  Do you do 10 hours of training and then go to a body attack class?

 

You might call it hiking or mountaineering.

So you go for a 10 hour hike before doing a bodyattack class?  Do you hike back home again afterwards?  That would make 21 hours of continous training!!!! I am guessing I have misread this?

 

 

SteveTaylor:

  Perhaps you could try 100 burpess in 10 minutes (Pretty much = not the same), it is an absolute killer and far far harder than it sounds (do not forget the pressup in the burpee!).

 

 

I complained to a mate of mine at les mills that they never did burpees, he had never heard of them.

 

Perhaps you could perform the above and get him to do it with you?

 

 

 

SteveTaylor:

•  Do something similar when going up scree slopes

Hmm ... something similar = not the same?  Try a set of burpee tabetta intervals, they will probably challenge even you.  Once again do not forget the pressup.

  

Yeah scree slope is a lot harder. 

  

 

Unless you have tried tabetta burpess, how do you know? 

 

 

SteveTaylor:

• Body builders might struggle, but cardio members certainly would have no problem.

Depends on what you define as being a body builder and what you define as being a cardio member.  Could you elaborate.  The cardio members are the ones who could do a full class of Body Attack with maximum effort, good technique and not feel like they have had a work out?

Body builders are those with all bulk and no muscle, cardio are those who regularly do 2-3 hours medium cardio a day. Such as going running.

Bodybuilders with all bulk and no muscle surely do not exist?  Even the most dedicated hypertrophic routine will provide some muscle growth.  What about people who follow a hypertrophy training schedule but also perform cardio work?

Your friends regularly perform 2-3 hours of medium cardio a day?  Do they have jobs\families etc?  How do they find time for it all? 

Also, I thought that it had been proved that short intense sessions were more beneficial than long medium sessions?

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I remember when I used to be really into nostalgia

SteveTaylor:

Bodybuilders with all bulk and no muscle surely do not exist?

Your friends regularly perform 2-3 hours of medium cardio a day?  Do they have jobs\families etc?  How do they find time for it all?

Quoted for TRUTH.

People with no muscle and all bulk makes me think of those 400+ pound bed-ridden people you see on talk shows.

As for his comment about 2-3 hours, I believe he said someone he considers to be aerobically fit would do that routine.  That's intense, although I don't know what medium cardio means.  I get about 1-2 hours of intense cardio when I'm not working and probably an hour of intense cardio every other day of the work week.  I consider these LM classes to NOT be intense cardio and I don't count them.

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SteveTaylor:

So you go for a 10 hour hike before doing a bodyattack class?  Do you hike back home again afterwards?  That would make 21 hours of continous training!!!! I am guessing I have misread this?

 

5 hours one way, 5 hours return, stop off at les mills on way home
 

 

SteveTaylor:

Your friends regularly perform 2-3 hours of medium cardio a day?  Do they have jobs\families etc?  How do they find time for it all? 

 

Hardly difficult, bike to work for an hour, do an hour exercise at lunch and then bike home at end of day.

Then go out after dinner and either go dancing or play sport with kids. 

 

SteveTaylor:

Also, I thought that it had been proved that short intense sessions were more beneficial than long medium sessions?

You were mistaken.

 

Are you sure I am mistaken?

This is a fairly detailed article about it with 43 separate science references. 
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-63aec107.html

I got this information from this gentleman (I have three of his books):

http://www.rosstraining.com/

Here he is at work, whilst to yourself he probably is not that impressive I would love to have this ability:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6JvhCTjicY

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I remember when I used to be really into nostalgia

Did you try the 100 Burpee challenge yet?

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I remember when I used to be really into nostalgia

Just out of interest - how often do you do the 11 hour training session?

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I remember when I used to be really into nostalgia

this conversation is insane...

i just did the new release at super saturday in sweden with Lisa O instructing and the class went off big time - there must have been maybe 400 people participating and the energy level was awesome

i am not sure what the ratio between male and female was but i remember seeing quite a few guys...and when the rest of the class is made up of gorgeous scandanvian women who is going to be counting anyway?! lol

all i remember was in the changing room after was every guy there saying how hard the class was...these are instructors not regular participants.

if anyone thinks that body attack is too "easy" or "unmanly" then they really should be looking at themselves...

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There's more than one way to skin a cat

No Rich LOL

 

This dude just voices his opinion as to BodyAttack not being challenging enough, therefor not having many male participants LOL making this go on and on...I actually find it amusing at this point...I went from cracking up and rolling around on the floor...to awaiting for his youtube post of some incredible "high front leg kicks with a jump touch the floor in between" for his extra challenge...now days I just wait for anything to get posted :P 

 

Glad you enjoyed BA (lucky dog with Lisa O even!!!)...I can't wait till I launch BA62...it's going to be wicked!!!!

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"To see is to be deceived. To hear is to be lied to. To FEEL is to believe" Bruce Lee

SteveTaylor:

Are you sure I am mistaken?

This is a fairly detailed article about it with 43 separate science references. 
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-63aec107.html

I got this information from this gentleman (I have three of his books):

http://www.rosstraining.com/

Here he is at work, whilst to yourself he probably is not that impressive I would love to have this ability:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6JvhCTjicY

 

Oh wow Steve!!!

 

I think that dumbbell weights more than me hahahaha That's insane!

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"To see is to be deceived. To hear is to be lied to. To FEEL is to believe" Bruce Lee

SteveTaylor:

Are you sure I am mistaken?

This is a fairly detailed article about it with 43 separate science references. 
http://www.datafilehost.com/download-63aec107.html

I got this information from this gentleman (I have three of his books):

http://www.rosstraining.com/

Here he is at work, whilst to yourself he probably is not that impressive I would love to have this ability:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6JvhCTjicY

There was no evidence in the article just references to other articles which I have no access to. I base my opinion on actually knowing what fit people did in way of exercise to get so fit, and it was moderate hard intensity over long periods of time.

 

 

Roxy:

Oh wow Steve!!!

 

I think that dumbbell weights more than me hahahaha That's insane!

How do you know? For all you know they are made of cardboard.