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too late for mine. i was just informed via e-mail that Jam was not popular with the members and effectively my morning class will become Zumba in October. What this means for the release i just received I have no idea. No class= no launch= waste of a DVD.

 Excuse me while I go off and practice some Zumba choreography for my "new" class, which is pretty much the only class I teach right now. Alas for the LMI licensing which means I can't just set up shop on my own for the people who actually like dance class.

sorry to hear that shimarella :( I remmmeber when i first tries 'selling' jam to other clubs i would go and do a 'one off' class to tempt the clubs into buying the licence, but amazingly they proved so popular the clubs would refused to do any more 'one-offs' as participants put too much pressure on the club to buy the licence!

Its really strange cus yo look at the dvd and fantastic events like the SQW in sweden and it looks like Jam is HUGE but it just is does not seem to reflect whats happening in the gym? But like i said before we really have to shorten the blocks and keep them of similar lengths so its easy to mix without having to re-learn a whole block.

For those who have not introduced 49+ im shocked to be honest,you will find that will smack you right between the legs long term cus when you start introducing it they will be soooooooo bored and if an instructor has failed to introduced the plus options after 12 WEEKS is either being lazy or has failed in the basic istruction in teaching base, it should never take that long!

thanks

the plus options for 49= we usually fold some plus options right in but with this one, the members seemed challenged enough by Base ( which says something about the quality of Base in this release). 

Now I WAS going to introduce some Plus options next week but at the moment I'm not terribly motivated 

mrrocket:

sorry to hear that shimarella :( I remmmeber when i first tries 'selling' jam to other clubs i would go and do a 'one off' class to tempt the clubs into buying the licence, but amazingly they proved so popular the clubs would refused to do any more 'one-offs' as participants put too much pressure on the club to buy the licence!

Its really strange cus yo look at the dvd and fantastic events like the SQW in sweden and it looks like Jam is HUGE but it just is does not seem to reflect whats happening in the gym? But like i said before we really have to shorten the blocks and keep them of similar lengths so its easy to mix without having to re-learn a whole block.

For those who have not introduced 49+ im shocked to be honest,you will find that will smack you right between the legs long term cus when you start introducing it they will be soooooooo bored and if an instructor has failed to introduced the plus options after 12 WEEKS is either being lazy or has failed in the basic istruction in teaching base, it should never take that long!

I feel all of you i too recently lost jam in one of my clubs - went from having 40 something to 30 something to 20 something to 8! =( was one of the best classes because you could challenge yourself as an instructor and challenge the participants with the advanced options.

Rocket when you say after 12 weeks, how long do you guys keep the releases for? here in aus usually we keep it 4-6 weeks, usually 4 weeks base, 2 maybe 3 weeks adv (depending on the release) however not all classes are like that - we have some new gyms recently opened in which base is enough for them the grasp and enjoy it. For example in release 50 some of the adv moves in the house block even some of the most exp instructors have said they wount introduce to their class due to the complexity of it and not to frighten off new or fairly new members.

Havin said that some of my other classes at newer clubs seem to be going well, i just hope it stays that way and grows stonger, Jam is just waay to much fun and too much of an awesome program to lose! =(

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Well i keep the release for about 5-6 weeks before mixing it and add on all the plus options by the third week as the base versions have been far to simple for my lot but every gym different. With regard to the complexity of Jam would shorter blocks not be easier to remember without it being over complex? I just the shorter blocks have far more 'memory triggers' in to enable instructors to learn easier?

Shim...it was instructors that dont bother learning the plus options i was talkng about

Shorter blocks, like 1 song each? 2 songs? A lot of blocks nowadayas are about three songs long (15 minutes or so) and I think it's the perfect length. One block I use from time to time is the Latin block from release 37. It's two songs long, about 7 or 8 minutes,and it just feels so short! It's over before you even begin.

I wouldn't like lots of really short blocks very much. I like building up a good-sized chunk of choreography. I think it's more fun!

shimarella:

too late for mine. i was just informed via e-mail that Jam was not popular with the members and effectively my morning class will become Zumba in October. What this means for the release i just received I have no idea. No class= no launch= waste of a DVD.

 Excuse me while I go off and practice some Zumba choreography for my "new" class, which is pretty much the only class I teach right now. Alas for the LMI licensing which means I can't just set up shop on my own for the people who actually like dance class.

Here is the scoop Bodyjam has not been working for me for the last 3 years. The music, the moves repeating all the time, the last release was the final straw, the endless repeating of the moves drove me up the wall.

Gandalf please add variety to the program.

Now heads off and ducks for cover.

ErinC:

Shorter blocks, like 1 song each? 2 songs? A lot of blocks nowadayas are about three songs long (15 minutes or so) and I think it's the perfect length. One block I use from time to time is the Latin block from release 37. It's two songs long, about 7 or 8 minutes,and it just feels so short! It's over before you even begin.

I wouldn't like lots of really short blocks very much. I like building up a good-sized chunk of choreography. I think it's more fun!

 

Erin its good that Jam is working for you and i am glad that its gone from strength to strength but you seem to be in the minority.

I prefer shorter blocks to keep it more interesting. Go back to 35,36 and 37 and they are mindnumbing. I cant even do 'ring the alarm' anymore as there are about a zillion single taps before anything happens and like i said before you can build it up for the rlainch and may be 2/3 times after but after that participants know whats coming and the format stops working as you just cant keep building it on the same scale whilst being believable.

Its good to have a healthy discussion on this matter, I could never do a better job than the programme directors but i still think its good to get constructive feedback and considering the feedback (apart from erin) seems to be the same there is an obvious problem huh?

mrrocket:

Its good to have a healthy discussion on this matter, I could never do a better job than the programme directors but i still think its good to get constructive feedback and considering the feedback (apart from erin) seems to be the same there is an obvious problem huh?

Gandalf is one step ahead of you on this one.

That is all. 

JamFrog:

mrrocket:

Its good to have a healthy discussion on this matter, I could never do a better job than the programme directors but i still think its good to get constructive feedback and considering the feedback (apart from erin) seems to be the same there is an obvious problem huh?

 

Gandalf is one step ahead of you on this one.

That is all. 

Please discuss?

Rocket,

 I agree about the repetitiveness, some of the blocks have far too many holding moves, e.g spring tap or step touch, as you say, fine for a couple of weeks, but when people know that we've got about a minute or so of spring taps before we do anything it does take the shine off.

 But, if as Patrick says, Gandalf has addressed some of the issues that have been raised, it will be interesting to see what 51 & 52 bring...

I think also, everyone asking for change needs to keep in mind the length of time it takes to put a release together, filming of 52 is coming up soon and 53 is being worked on too, so realistically feedback given now (if it's constructive lol...) probably won't get incorporated until release 54...

I agree the program needs tweaking a bit, but it ain't gonna happen over night, because it cant...

 Lucky Jam is doing really well at one of my clubs, if not the other... 

mrrocket:

JamFrog:

mrrocket:

Its good to have a healthy discussion on this matter, I could never do a better job than the programme directors but i still think its good to get constructive feedback and considering the feedback (apart from erin) seems to be the same there is an obvious problem huh?

 

Gandalf is one step ahead of you on this one.

That is all. 

Please discuss?