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Jambo:

Change choreography? FAIL!!! (for all the obvious and well stated reasons already posted).

Simple question. Would they be doing this if the Program Director or, say, Philip Mills was in the room. Yes or no?

 ...and RexFury's (bitter man!) comments about the diva attitudes of the "great" instructors that routinely skip breaks...and how they'll go to "brand x" if taken to task...

Let them go teach somewhere else. As a GFM I'd give them once chance to come correct. Unwilling to change? Find another job. PERIOD.

If the GFM is in collusion--the franchise club coach should get involved.

And no, it's not about "punishing the sinners" but doing it RIGHT.

 

Perfect.

 If I move to CA can I come work for you????

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kimpete:

Unfortunately that is true. When I became a freestyle instructor I had to go through workshops of basic Anatomy and Physiology of exercise and the body. When I trained for LM programs, there is virtually nothing about that. I think all LM instructors should be required to have this training as well. Just my opinion. Maybe because I already had it. ;)  It costs more money and more time, but at least we would all understand HOW we are doing something affects the results! And could help us prevent inujuries, etc...

Well you are nearly there. LM Instructors must keep in mind there are indeed 5 Key elements but these are the basic foundations of delivering a class. To be at the top of your game, you need to give more to appeal to all of your participants. Follow up cues are the next step but consist of more than HOW, but also WHYand WHAT etc.

It's one reason I tend to avoid Combat classes these days. Combat's target audience is women, 20-35, who wish to shape mid section and thighs. But think how many instructors in Combat say nothing about WHY they are turning and punching downward and WHAT muscles the move is targeting and HOW that helps the shape and tone. Instead, they just concentrate on how hard they can smash an imaginary person's face in. How far of the mark are they with their programme?

turnitup59:

kimpete:

Unfortunately that is true. When I became a freestyle instructor I had to go through workshops of basic Anatomy and Physiology of exercise and the body. When I trained for LM programs, there is virtually nothing about that. I think all LM instructors should be required to have this training as well. Just my opinion. Maybe because I already had it. ;)  It costs more money and more time, but at least we would all understand HOW we are doing something affects the results! And could help us prevent inujuries, etc...

 they just concentrate on how hard they can smash an imaginary person's face in. How far of the mark are they with their programme?

Hmm, I would never come in a class with an instructor of that kind..

Fortunately, my BC instructor is not like one of those you described...

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turnitup59:

kimpete:

Unfortunately that is true. When I became a freestyle instructor I had to go through workshops of basic Anatomy and Physiology of exercise and the body. When I trained for LM programs, there is virtually nothing about that. I think all LM instructors should be required to have this training as well. Just my opinion. Maybe because I already had it. ;)  It costs more money and more time, but at least we would all understand HOW we are doing something affects the results! And could help us prevent inujuries, etc...

Well you are nearly there. LM Instructors must keep in mind there are indeed 5 Key elements but these are the basic foundations of delivering a class. To be at the top of your game, you need to give more to appeal to all of your participants. Follow up cues are the next step but consist of more than HOW, but also WHYand WHAT etc.

It's one reason I tend to avoid Combat classes these days. Combat's target audience is women, 20-35, who wish to shape mid section and thighs. But think how many instructors in Combat say nothing about WHY they are turning and punching downward and WHAT muscles the move is targeting and HOW that helps the shape and tone. Instead, they just concentrate on how hard they can smash an imaginary person's face in. How far of the mark are they with their programme?

 It's unfortunate that your Combat experience has been so unpleasant! I love teaching Combat, and yes, we do allude to physical violence from time to time, but more importantly, we TEACH technique and safety. As a personal trainer, I probably do this a lot more than some other instructors, but I would think that most Combat instructors, as well as other LM program instructors, explain the "why" of the moves. For example - I LOVE the Downward Streetbrawl Punch - but before getting into the "hold him down and punch hit lights out" kind of stuff, I FIRST explain the safety precautions and benefits of the move. THEN we hold him down and punch his lights out. With love.

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I'm new to posting on the forum and thought I would start with a reply to this subject. 

What about instructors who modify the choreo AND music i.e. somehow edit the breaks out of the music?  I was visiting a club recently and noticed some parts of the tracks were missing along with the moves/rests that went with the music.  I thought it was just my memory, but doing the class back home and then revisiting the gym I realised the music was slightly different.  I don't think from reading posts that there is more than one version of the music.  What is going on?

 

Instead, they just concentrate on how hard they can smash an imaginary person's face in. How far of the mark are they with their programme?

Ok, after having to fork out £290 after my car got towed (honest mistake - I parked in my usual spot and just didn't see the *small* signs that parking was going to be suspended there for a few days) I'll admit I was picturing a parking warden tonight in combat.

I'll explain the how's and why's in class tomorrow nightwhen the blood pressure has gone down and I've gotten over the shock to the bank account.....

£290??!!!!! That's over $700 NZD!!! I don't wanna think about how many classes I'd have to teach to get that back.

Can't say I blame you Rob - that's nuts!!!

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I'm trying to connect the original post to the current topic of car towage fees.............wonder where the conversation will head next. lol

eskwan:

I'm trying to connect the original post to the current topic of car towage fees.............wonder where the conversation will head next. lol

That's pretty tame by comparison to some of the tangents we've had recently.

Besides, I think we've pretty much dissected the original topic to death, so no harm in random diversions.

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The forum member "pipera" is not a Les Mills Instructor, though his posts, signature and profile will claim otherwise.

Since he has been economical with the truth on his profile, read the real facts here.

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What's with the long replies on this one it's a 1 word answer, it's not negotiable 

 

NO 

 

:) 

 

I got a similar post "Other instructors doing it wrong in my club" 

Should they? No.

Do they? Yes.

Will they get punished? Not very likely.

Can a thread like this among participants and instructors achieve anything more than to jerk a few chains? Extremely unlikely.

Breaks are for wussies!

Rex

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Excuse me... May I motivate you?

Honestly Rex,

 

Your belligerence is becoming boring.

Breaks are not for "wussies".

And, if it was at my Club, yes people would find the door hitting their *** on the way out.

 

 

 

fitgirl1:

Honestly Rex, Your belligerence is becoming boring.

Breaks are not for "wussies".

And, if it was at my Club, yes people would find the door hitting their *** on the way out.

Oh for crying out loud! This is exactly what my last post was about.

Let me boldly repeat the question :

Can a thread like this among participants and instructors achieve anything more than to jerk a few chains?

This thread has achieved nothing more than to let a self righteous few who take themselves a little too seriously to pontificate.

"Breaks are for wussies!" was simply bait, and you took it.

Ease up, guys!

Rex

 

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Excuse me... May I motivate you?

You should add some big big smiles after that so some can understand your humour

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This thread has achieved nothing more than to let a self righteous few who take themselves a little too seriously to pontificate.

I'm not sure which aphorism is most accurate here......but it's down to either people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones or isn't there something about removing the beam from you own eye before worrying about your neighbours'?

Either way, there's a certain irony in our mate Rex calling anyone else self-righteous, let alone throwing around comments about pontification.