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Last post 11-03-2009, 2:55 PM by uberjenna. 6 replies.
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  •  10-24-2009, 11:24 AM 69348

    Learning Choreography

    I taught freestyle for 15 years and have been teaching Les Mills (Attack, Step and Pump) for the last 6 years. Trained on Bodyvive 11.  Just launched BV 12.

    I am very confident in my ability to learn choreography of all types however I find BV choreography very difficult to learn.   Weird patterns... choruses have different moves thru out the song ... awkward transitions..... 

    Is anyone else struggling with this?  I keep hoping I will get used to it but I am seriously considering not teaching Vive anymore - simply because of the time it takes to learn this one program.  Pump, Attack and Step are a snap compared to Vive.

     


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  •  10-24-2009, 12:09 PM 69351 in reply to 69348

    Re: Learning Choreography

    I am SO with you on this one!! Two tracks that come to mind are "Fly like an Eagle" and "Gentleman" in BV12. They get me every time. There are moves done back to back, then next time round separated by another move etc..and unless you know  exactly where you are with the music the potential for coming unstuck is huge. Even towards the end of a quarter when you can do the release in your sleep I still have to concentrate like mad in tracks like this.

    Sometimes writing the chorry squences down as you practise them makes the pattern emerge. I remember one track in BV11 (can't recall at present) looked like mud until I wrote it all down and saw the (albeit rather complicated) pattern. I think the thing with Vive is just to do it over and over until the music is your cue rather than relying on even patterns.

    Having said that, it does get MUCH easier over time. I can now learn the chorry in about half the time I could when starting out (on release 3) Those early days were a CHALLENGE!!. Helps to have the DVD on my I-pod too.

    Hang in there-it's only your second release and I'm hearing through the grapevine that the chorry is getting simpler in the next few releases. (Probably due to feedback like yours!)

    Keep Viving! We need more instructors to uphold this brilliant program... 


    Certified Bodyvive Instructor,Certified Personal Trainer,participant in everything LM.
  •  10-24-2009, 4:58 PM 69366 in reply to 69351

    Re: Learning Choreography

    madari:

    I am SO with you on this one!! Two tracks that come to mind are "Fly like an Eagle" and "Gentleman" in BV12. They get me every time. There are moves done back to back, then next time round separated by another move etc..and unless you know  exactly where you are with the music the potential for coming unstuck is huge. Even towards the end of a quarter when you can do the release in your sleep I still have to concentrate like mad in tracks like this.

    Sometimes writing the chorry squences down as you practise them makes the pattern emerge. I remember one track in BV11 (can't recall at present) looked like mud until I wrote it all down and saw the (albeit rather complicated) pattern. I think the thing with Vive is just to do it over and over until the music is your cue rather than relying on even patterns.

    Having said that, it does get MUCH easier over time. I can now learn the chorry in about half the time I could when starting out (on release 3) Those early days were a CHALLENGE!!. Helps to have the DVD on my I-pod too.

    Hang in there-it's only your second release and I'm hearing through the grapevine that the chorry is getting simpler in the next few releases. (Probably due to feedback like yours!)

    Keep Viving! We need more instructors to uphold this brilliant program... 

    BV11 was relatively easy to learn, except for that bloody Connect'n'Go track! That's a challenge to coach even for the most experienced instructor! But that whole release was also quite sentimental, as it was my training release Smile

    Having said that though, I'm learning BV10 at the moment, and it is a piece of cake compared to 11 and 12. At least it will give me something a bit different to teach my class (they must be getting sick of me repeating 11 and 12 by now... LOL).

    And I agree, it gets much easier as you get more experienced with Vive and the way things are done. And because a lot of the same basic moves carry over from release to release (squats, knee repeaters, etc.), you don't particularly need to spend too much time on technique, so it gives you a lot more time to focus on learning chorey and coaching and connecting with your class.

    Having done BV13 in Auckland, I can tell you right now that it comes across as much simpler than BV12, so it'd be even better for you! Let us know how you go, as we are more than happy to help you out here Smile


    There is no such thing as 'normal' in this world!
    Certified BodyJam instructor since 15/4/2009.
    Trainee BodyVive instructor (awaiting certification outcome).
  •  10-25-2009, 2:19 PM 69392 in reply to 69366

    Re: Learning Choreography

    Let me echo what JamFrog and Madari have said!!!  It does get easier over time. (I started with NO fitness experience on release 4 and was crying my eyes out after the first day of training!!!:)  Anyway, as I have stated before, I am the only Vive instructor at my gym so its 12 tracks every 3 months to learn by myself!!!!  If it wasn't for the people in the forum I would have packed my bags and given up long ago!!!! (especially track 2 release 11:)  But everyone here is willing and able to help you out with those crazy tracks Susan likes to throw in there!!!!  Just take heart and ask as many questions as you have and someone will be there to offer a suggestion!!!!  DONT GIVE UP!!! VIVE ROCKS!!!!

    Catherine

  •  10-25-2009, 8:45 PM 69402 in reply to 69392

    Re: Learning Choreography

    Oh Catherine! Track 2 release 11.....NOT a good chorey memory for me I'm afraid.

     Speaking of training ( which was held interstate and a weekend away trip for the family)  I was bawling and packing my bags at two in the morning after day one as my husband was just as quickly unpacking them saying "You HAVE to show up in the morning. You can show up and fail, but you're GOING to show up. God bless him. I passed to teach of all things and due to a fabulous instructor that took me under her wing I had my own class 2 months later.Showed me that you can do ANYTHING if you tell yourself you can...  

     

     


    Certified Bodyvive Instructor,Certified Personal Trainer,participant in everything LM.
  •  10-29-2009, 12:24 PM 69838 in reply to 69402

    Re: Learning Choreography

    Man, Vive is a piece of cake compared to Jam LMAO!!!

     I agree with Maddy about tracks 3 and 6 in release 12! Gentlemen has gotta one of the hardest tracks of any program ever to learn!!! 

  •  11-03-2009, 2:55 PM 70317 in reply to 69838

    Re: Learning Choreography

    My only other class I have ever taught in my life was PUMP, and I haven't even taught that for more than a year. VIVE has been my biggest challenge as far as learning is concerned. BV 11 was the release I trianed on and didn't really think was too terribly challenging, even track 2 but most likely it was the fantastic team I was able to work with that helped me through it lessened the pain. Big Smile

    And then I might BV 12, track 3. I have yet to learn this - we just launched this release over the weekend. Everything else I got but that track is going to be a major thorn in my side. I really think it's just going to be sheer memorization. I guess it's a good thing I like the music - I'll be listening to it MANY times over!

    I'd love to try Jam but I think that might have to be a couple of years out still. We offer Zumba at our facility and I can barely get the moves there so I don't know if my 2 left feet will ever be coordinated enough for Jam, but a girl can dream, right? LOL

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