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Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

Last post 06-17-2008, 12:36 PM by ecullingham. 42 replies.
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  •  05-09-2008, 10:47 AM 29418 in reply to 29416

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    Never mind....
  •  05-09-2008, 11:48 AM 29421 in reply to 29416

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    I think we all just need stop saying "these are the rules for filming/what release you film/what you can teach after filming but before results/etc." The rules are different in every country. Those of us who have been around for a while realize that. But potentially we're either confusing or, worse, setting newbies up to flunk a video for filming the wrong release, etc. The only good advice to give someone is talk to Les Mills in your area.
    Free the body. The mind will follow.
  •  05-09-2008, 12:54 PM 29425 in reply to 29283

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    There are lots of reasons why she doesn't change/mix as much as others. However, you can stop becoming stale/plateauing by regularly challenging yourself with extra weight. Perhaps choose a couple tracks each time to put extra weight on, or one time boost your leg weights and alternate next time with bigger arms weights.

  •  05-09-2008, 3:21 PM 29431 in reply to 29283

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    I think the other posts pretty much covered it.  At the gym where I teach, they are so spoiled and will leave if we do not switch up releases.  I can't teach a release more than 2 weeks in a row, and that is usually just for launch.  So if this instructor ain't doing it for you, is there another class/instructor you can take from that can freshen up the class for you?  After talking with the instructor to see their point of view, I would also suggest finding the GFM to see what their policy is on this topic.  Some gyms require instructors to teach a release for a certain length of time. 
  •  05-09-2008, 8:23 PM 29439 in reply to 29416

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    Ditto anacrus2.

    Also, Mrgtv, from the BP manual:  "teach the entire new release for a minimum of 2 weeks and a maximum of four weeks and then start to integrate other tracks."  It goes on to explain how and why to do it.  Nothing about just using release from the past year.

  •  05-10-2008, 12:37 AM 29446 in reply to 29409

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    mrgtv:

    combatg1rl, geezermama both wrong.

     Once you have passed module training, you are free to teach - any release. You must submit your video within 16 weeks of your module training pass. Again this can be ANY release but it is recommended you use the same release simply because you have just learned it!

     

    to be fair, in the UK the rules for sending in videos have recently changed.

    Instructors should now send in a video teaching the release that they were trained on and not any other. They're also not allowed to mix and match releases anymore. It should be 0ne release straight through from start to finish.Wink 

  •  05-10-2008, 7:20 PM 29474 in reply to 29446

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    pambr40, did that come out with the new release?  I'm glad, actually. 

    When I first started mixing releases, I did not enjoy it as much as I thought I would, so for the last 6 months or so, I just change out the whole release.  I don't "mix"...It seems that there is a "theme" that runs through each release and the "theme" gets diluted when you try to mix.   Its also easier for me to keep my choreo straight in my head.  Wink

    Thanks, pambr40...can anyone else confirm this?

  •  05-10-2008, 11:42 PM 29484 in reply to 29474

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    geezermama:

    When I first started mixing releases, I did not enjoy it as much as I thought I would, so for the last 6 months or so, I just change out the whole release.  I don't "mix"...It seems that there is a "theme" that runs through each release and the "theme" gets diluted when you try to mix.  

    Not sure I get your reasoning with this geezermama - can you explain what you mean by a "theme" and give an example of how that works in a release recently?

    It did use to be the case that Pump mixes had a "theme" to the choreo but that hasn't been the case for a while now! By your rationale above, you'd never mix, just do different complete releases... which is, TBH, pretty strange! One of the things that keeps Pump fresh is mixing the music...

  •  05-11-2008, 12:49 AM 29487 in reply to 29484

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    I think he meant that you can't mix releases when taping the certification video. I trained quite recently and in Scandinavia it's definitely encouraged to mix releases as it says in the manual. I sure hope they won't change that -  3 months of exactly the same would drive me nuts.

    No animals were harmed in posting this message, although the yorkshire terrier next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you.
  •  05-11-2008, 9:42 PM 29518 in reply to 29484

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    Well, ck1, I guess "theme" was not the best word to describe what I meant.  Maybe this is better:  With 65, we have the tracks with "no recovery"...chest, tris and bis.  With another release, we may have a similar combo sequence in several tracks.  Or maybe, the legs are difficult with other tracks being "average."   I might be inclined to mix all hardest and "no recovery" tracks for a workout...but I don't really like it as much.  I realize everyone is different...that's cool...I guess I've just enjoyed all the releases I've done so far and like to present them "as is."

     Next week, I'm going back to 60 in its entirety.

  •  05-12-2008, 12:34 AM 29523 in reply to 29439

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    As I said, the duration was from memory...

    You are correct in that you can teach tracks from any release. As I said, it is only a recommendation that tracks are no older than one year. This is because training techniques change, etc. Also note, in UK you cannot buy releases older than 1 year. 

  •  05-12-2008, 12:43 AM 29524 in reply to 29446

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    I know fellow instructors who have just submitted videos and used different releases. The UK guidelines are here:

    http://www.fitpro.com/bts/certification2.cfm

    "Do I have to use the release I did my module training on?"

    It is advisable that you do as this is the release that you will have spent a significant amount of time learning and should be the one that you know best. If you have moved on to the next release within your 16-week period, please use the release that you feel most comfortable with, taking into consideration the Five Key Elements and areas of assessment.

    "Can I use more than one release?"

    You are able to use a maximum of two different releases. Please provide a track list detailing which release each track is from for your assessor“s information.

  •  05-12-2008, 1:09 AM 29526 in reply to 29474

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    geezermama:

    pambr40, did that come out with the new release?  Thanks, pambr40...can anyone else confirm this?

    I can only tell you that this now applies in the UK, I wouldn't honestly know if this is the case for the USYes

     

    And it only applies to your cert videoBig Smile once certified you can mix and match however you please.

  •  05-12-2008, 3:18 AM 29527 in reply to 29446

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    A couple of new instructors at my gym have submitted (just last week) using the guidelines from FitPro

    Their website confirms the UK rules for certification videos:

    "Do I have to use the release I did my module training on?"

    It is advisable that you do as this is the release that you will have spent a significant amount of time learning and should be the one that you know best. If you have moved on to the next release within your 16-week period, please use the release that you feel most comfortable with, taking into consideration the Five Key Elements and areas of assessment.

    "Can I use more than one release?"

    You are able to use a maximum of two different releases. Please provide a track list detailing which release each track is from for your assessor“s information.

    Resubmission Video FAQs:

    "Do I have to use the same music release as my first video/DVD?"

    Your assessor may specify a particular release on your assessment. If so, please ensure your video/DVD is on the stated release. Otherwise please use the release you are most familiar with and ensure you are able to demonstrate the Five Key Elements throughout the video/DVD.

  •  05-12-2008, 7:50 AM 29539 in reply to 29518

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    geezermama:

    Well, ck1, I guess "theme" was not the best word to describe what I meant.  Maybe this is better:  With 65, we have the tracks with "no recovery"...chest, tris and bis.  With another release, we may have a similar combo sequence in several tracks.  Or maybe, the legs are difficult with other tracks being "average."   I might be inclined to mix all hardest and "no recovery" tracks for a workout...but I don't really like it as much.  I realize everyone is different...that's cool...I guess I've just enjoyed all the releases I've done so far and like to present them "as is."

     Next week, I'm going back to 60 in its entirety.

    I actually think this can be a good approach, and totally understand what you mean. Until recently, I have always mixed and mashed together tracks from different releases. But there's an instructor at our gym who always teaches releases in full and I'm starting to think she has a good way of approaching it.

    The reasons -

    First of all, when we first launch a new release, we all say "Oh you shouldn't just start mixing in some of the tracks - the class should experience the release in full." Well in theory, the same thing could apply historically - wouldn't it be nice for newer members to still get to experience old releases in full, how they were designed?

    Also, often there are intentional training features built into a release. E.g. super-hard Squat track and easier Lunges. Or common themes or threads. Etc. You miss this if you don't revisit the entire release.

    We talk about a musical journey - a release is already written like that. Teaching old releases in full ensures you don't OD on one style of music.

    Plus - it's hard being an experienced participant, not knowing what tracks are coming next. What if it's a tougher or easier track and you don't load your bar the right way? You either go too heavy or too light. And while we can try and guide the class as to what this track is like, different things are difficult for different people and what we think about a track being easy/hard might not be what each person in your class thinks. The nice thing about a release in its entirety is experienced members know what's coming next or you can remind them "It's the XYZ back track" and it jogs their memory because it's in the context they were first introduced to it.

    A big one for me is that I don't often mix in tracks I don't like. Sad, but true. If someone requests it, sure, of course I mix it in. However, there might be tracks that I don't like, that my class love, and if I never teach them, they miss out unless they remember back far enough to specifically ask for them. Newer members won't know to ask for tracks that would be right up their alley. If you teach old releases in full, you include even those tracks you're not crazy about and maybe the class really love them.

    I think there's room for both, obviously, but I do think there is a benefit in, at least sometimes, teaching full releases. I had my "ten release anniversary" for BP (with BP65; I trained on BP55) and I decided to go back to the whole release, and I'm thinking now I may just work my way up through the 50's till BP66 comes out!


    Free the body. The mind will follow.
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