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Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

Last post 06-17-2008, 12:36 PM by ErinC. 42 replies.
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  •  05-07-2008, 11:17 AM 29283

    Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    I've been doing BodyPump for more than 2 months now. I've seen changes in my body and feel stronger. The problem is that I'm increasingly bored with it because the instructor I take the class with most of the time has used the same release for weeks (#64). She's finally starting to incorporate some of 65, but, of course, by the time it's all incorporated, parts of it will be old and familiar again. It's not just boredom from the music/routines I'm concerned about: It seems that doing the same routine week after week will not challenge the muscles anymore and will just lead to plateau. Does this seem right? Any suggestions on how to get the instructors to keep up with the new releases?
  •  05-07-2008, 11:37 AM 29284 in reply to 29283

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

     

    Hi!

    Maybe  your instructor trained on 64 and doesn't have any back releases.  Talk with them about it, b/c if you are bored with it, I bet your instructor is too!! I trained on 64 and can' wait until we release 65...for my own sanity!!  Everyone at my gym is new and trained on 64!!  

     

    Michelle 


    Don't regret doing anything that made you smile!!
  •  05-07-2008, 11:52 AM 29285 in reply to 29283

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    First step: Talk to your instructor!

    There are a lot of reasons an instructor may not change the releases often:

    1. They're a new instructor and have only learned the one (or need to keep teaching it to film their video.)
    2. They have received feedback in the past (or present) that the class like getting the same release for a long time. I've known of clubs where they do not mix at all in the 3 months because the members don't like it, they want exactly the same thing till the new release comes out. Not my ideal but some like that.
    3. They "don't have time" to mix (because this involves learning/re-learning choreo.) A terrible excuse, IMHO. If you don't have the time, don't teach. But it is certainly a reason why one might not mix.

    Until you've talked to them though, you can't expect anything else, because maybe they don't know you need and want a change. Most instructors won't take it personally if you get tired of the same release after many weeks! And those who do, well, they have attitude problems that I'm sure come across in other ways, and they're probably not an instructor whose class you are dying to go to.

    Just be honest and tell them you like their class but are bored and it's leading you to work less than you were.


    Free the body. The mind will follow.
  •  05-07-2008, 12:04 PM 29287 in reply to 29285

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    yes, definitely talk to her.  Although when i was taping my video I told them they would get the same stuff until i got my video done.  I think most instructors share that info.  HOwever, maybe someone has asked her the exact opposite, to keep the same stuff.  Definitely talk to her.

     Michelle


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  •  05-07-2008, 4:22 PM 29314 in reply to 29285

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    Thanks, Everyone, for your thoughts. I've asked her before when we'd switch to 65 and she'd say "Oh, on Monday we'll have a new shoulder track." So, like I said, she GRADUALLY introduces new stuff, but, unlike a lot of other teachers, she never mixes (I think that she doesn't have the time to learn all the mixes, which is not an adequate excuse). I think I'll just be direct (we have a pretty good relationship) and say "I'm bored. I think mixing it up would help. It's affecting my performance. What can we do?"

     

  •  05-07-2008, 7:04 PM 29321 in reply to 29314

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    Feedback from participants is the best way for instructors to improve their class.

     

    I always like to hear what people think of my classes.  Doesn't always mean I will adjust my class to every piece of information i hear, but i will take it on board and think about whether it fits with my personality and also with the les mills teachings. 

  •  05-07-2008, 7:25 PM 29325 in reply to 29321

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    maltamark

    Some instructors are also doing the 8 week challenge - doing the same release for the number of weeks, but each time finding different ways to teach the class and challenging the participants.

    As a participant, you can change the workout routine (within safety parameters) by:

    1. increasing the load for some or all of the tracks.

    2. increasing the range of motion

    3. lengthening the time spent under tension (this means taking your time with the reps, minimise "rest periods" at the top or bottom of the movement

    I hope this helps.


    Whitebelt
  •  05-08-2008, 2:36 AM 29342 in reply to 29321

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    Hi please ask your instructor to teach the whole release please Bodypump 65 is an awesome release and should be experienced as a whole package please.

     Ask your instructor if they launch the programs this is an ideal situation to introduce the new releases and builds on the overall class experience from start to the end of the release.

    Years ago about 11 years ago we had a situation at the gym I was going to they had the release for 2 months no mixing then in the last month allowed to mix.

    IMO!

     Adding I am shocked I wrote 11 years ago wow!

  •  05-08-2008, 5:50 AM 29355 in reply to 29342

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    If she trained on BP 64, she CANNOT teach another release until she receives her official PASS cert. AFTER her video. Maybe that's the reason? If not, time to move on! Get busy, learn the choreography and deliver something NEW to her peeps!
  •  05-08-2008, 6:32 AM 29361 in reply to 29355

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    Sorry, combatg...that's not true.  If she trained on 64, she has to video 64, but once she puts it in the mail, she can teach whatever release she has available.  To submit a video, she would have had to have a PASS on her training.  It can be 6-8 weeks before the results of the video assessment is returned...plus another month or so before she receives her certificate.

    OP:  I would talk to her coordinator or GFM.  65 has been out now since the end of February, first of March in the USA...plenty of time for her to learn it.  We launched mid-April...this is my last week to be doing exclusively 65.  Next week I return to past releases or mixes until about 2 weeks before the launch of 66.  I will do 65 for a week or two before 66 to get the class ready. 

    The coordinator needs to know that the instructor is turning you off of BP...I'm sure others feel as you do, too. 

  •  05-08-2008, 8:09 AM 29370 in reply to 29361

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    errr I trained on Attack 56 and videod 57...
    Not tired are you???
  •  05-08-2008, 8:10 AM 29371 in reply to 29361

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    To submit a video, she would have had to have a PASS on her training.  It can be 6-8 weeks before the results of the video assessment is returned...plus another month or so before she receives her certificate.

     

    Precisely! I guess my post sounded confusing! However, in our area, they weren't allowing our newbies to teach the new releases until AFTER they receive their offcial cert. simply due to the fact they may receive a pass withheld etc. I guess some agencies/areas do things differently.  

  •  05-08-2008, 11:44 AM 29380 in reply to 29371

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    Think yourself lucky - when I first started doing pump 2 of the instructors stayed on release 31 for 6 months non-stop... I ended up knowing the release better than they did!

    Shockingly, I still love that release...Big Smile Mind you, doing it 4 times a week did get a bit tiresome! Good job I was doing 2 other Pump classes too! 

  •  05-09-2008, 6:38 AM 29409 in reply to 29361

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    combatg1rl, geezermama both wrong.

     Once you have passed module training, you are free to teach - any release. You must submit your video within 16 weeks of your module training pass. Again this can be ANY release but it is recommended you use the same release simply because you have just learned it!

    You can teach a release for as long or as short as you like and you are allowed to mix at any time however, IIRC, the training manuals recommend teaching a new complete release for 6-8 weeks from launch  then mix in tracks from releases no older than the last year (last 4 releases).

     

  •  05-09-2008, 9:07 AM 29416 in reply to 29409

    Re: Stale Body Pump (Instructors Not Changing Releases)

    Actually Mrgtv, all the areas have different rules on what you need to video on.  In the USA you need to do your video on the release you trained on.
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