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I note in a completely unrelated thread, it was mentioned that hovers have been taken out of RPM.

I used to do 3 RPMs a week up to about 2 years ago but had to stop due to work/time pressures. I remember being cued to do them back then, so presumably this is a fairly recent technique change.

So, for the panel, when and why were they dropped?

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Since he has been economical with the truth on his profile, read the real facts here.

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On a release about 2 years ago they explained that the risk for knee injuries outweighed the benefits of the move. On some releases within the past year or so they have added the Pullback Climb which I really like and some of my members get soooo excited about. Very efficient at targeting the hamstrings and glutes.

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Brandi

Hovers have in fact become obselete and should be replaced with the pullback climb - although I know of 2 classes with 2 different instructors who cued the hover this week ....

 

I think pullbacks are gone also :( My class loves them too. They all grunt when they come back and lock the abs on.

They have been missing for the past two releases. I wish they would explain 1) if they are indeed gone and 2) details as to why so we can pass it on.

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“A lot of people have gone further than they thought they could because someone. else thought they could.” -Zig

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Since it was posted a few months ago in this forum that we should introduce the newer moves into the older releases, it would make sense to me that the hover and/or pullback be replaced with power climb. Thoughts?

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Robert - Certified RPM instructor & BODYPUMP enthusiast - LIVE TO RIDE, RIDE TO LIVE! (Don't feed the monster!)

When they introduced the pullback we were told to replace the hover with it.That made that transition simple and we KNEW what to do. I just wish we had more direction as to what to do with the pullback now. Does anyone know if it is in 45?

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“A lot of people have gone further than they thought they could because someone. else thought they could.” -Zig

Teaching RPM™ and BODYPUMP™ in Bowie Maryland!!

I guess just keep teaching it (the pullback)? I have 1/4ly workshops next weekend so will find out about the chorey for 45 then.

I'm not sure exactly what has happened to pullback climb (it kind of makes a short appearance in the hill track of 45 when you pullback for a second before you sit and power climb) but I am a Spinning instructor, and received a newsletter explaining that the "extra" moves in RPM can be dangerous and we should not use them (In Spinning we only have ride easy, running, speed and climbing. There's no pull back, attack, aero race etc). I'm wondering if this info got back to Les Mills and they've taken it out? Though I only did module training a few months ago, and they still taught it to us.

Baybee:

I'm not sure exactly what has happened to pullback climb (it kind of makes a short appearance in the hill track of 45 when you pullback for a second before you sit and power climb) but I am a Spinning instructor, and received a newsletter explaining that the "extra" moves in RPM can be dangerous and we should not use them (In Spinning we only have ride easy, running, speed and climbing. There's no pull back, attack, aero race etc). I'm wondering if this info got back to Les Mills and they've taken it out? Though I only did module training a few months ago, and they still taught it to us.

Sounds like all of the variety is disappearing from RPM.

I hope they won't take out the Attacks, as that is the only bit of the class that I can manage to keep up the same pace and resistance both standing and seated.

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Recently published - my review of BodyPump 73 is available on my blog at:
http://rickinoz.com/2010/03/07/bodypump-73-review

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The forum member "pipera" is not a Les Mills Instructor, though his posts, signature and profile will falsely claim otherwise.

Since he has been economical with the truth on his profile, read the real facts here.

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I would like to hear about why the extra moves in RPM are considered dangerous?

 

Is it only dangerous in Spinning, whereby instructors may not be correctly coaching body position/resistance/pace (which can happen in RPM too, but hopefully ongoing education/quarterlies would help to correct), or is there a physiological impact that Les Mills (and their advisors) have been unaware of?

 

Or is it the Spinning fraternity trying to dissuade people from RPM, using negative feedback?